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Q. Yes - and what has also been a blessing/challenge is that i have had glimpses of Awareness, and then got sucked back into my character. I realize the glimpses are part of the show and appearances as such, but are the tease that keep me looking
J. What's actually happening when those glimpses occur is that you seeing what is clear, and everything is natural, the rest of the time what is seen is an illusion that all is not right, this has to be firmly believed. Keep looking back to see for whom these glimpses are occurring, are they occurring for a separate entity, or is clear seeing just happening?
Q. It is just seeing - for no one in particular - but "something/sense" is seeing this
J. Yes, and all the rest goes on just as before, but there's a clarity that there's no one in particular here, there, or anywhere. The story still plays on without the vested interest that was believed to be there before
Q. Yes
J. What you don't want to do is gauge this by appearances, seemingly bad crap will come up daily, and the mind will respond according to past conditioning
Q. There seems to be some vested interest here. I can't see who or why - for no one really. I no longer expect anything, there's nothing to attain, it really is just clear seeing all the time that hasn't remained permanent.
I get that, bad crap will come up and I no longer think that it shouldn't (although I did think that for a while). As sailor bob says, all thoughts are like clouds and they don't stick around here for too long (good or bad)
J. Yea, like he says, when you don't feed them, they die. When you don't give them attention, they don't hang around, or better said, when there's no attention given to them. The same thoughts that make come up to make us feel bad are the same thoughts that say here's a person here, they are just phantoms arising in the moment, creating the image of a
person, a person with problems, and all that.
Q. Yes - and there does seem to be some connection here that doesn't let all the clouds float by, although I intellectually know better
J. There's a fixation on the appearance, there is still a residual belief that all that means something for somebody
Q. And that is seen through with final acceptance that the false self is a group of thoughts?
J. Yes, with a knowing that the "self" is only a thought, no more significant than any other thought, and what's left is the clarity of who you are, there's no longer a central character
John Wheeler starts from the positive side and states that you are, and you know you are,
that's the only thing that can be known for certain, then he goes on to question the other side
of it, that there's no person, and this is what worked here, the long held cherished belief in and
person called JD was rooted out and exposed. Once that happened, the clarity and obviousness of my true being, the true essence was seen clearly
Q. I have followed the same logic - but not yet that clear feel like I am on the outside of an inside joke - I am looking for my glasses and everyone in the room can clearly see they are on my head, but I can't find them - frustrating
J. Just stay after it, that's the best pointer I can give on it, if there has been any clear seeing at all, that's half the battle, so to speak.
Q. Yes - sometimes a sense comes over me to relax and roll with life and this will work itself out as it needs to and can't be forced - that usually brings about some relief
J. It's impossible to explain colors to a person blind since birth, there's no reference point, but there's been a glimpse of clarity there, lock onto that.
Q. But that only lasts a few hours and then something has me back at it!
I have to be careful I think not to chase my past glimpses as experiences to be attained
J. Ok, even when it seems that you’ve been pulled back in, let the knowing be there that you've never really gone anywhere, this is just an illusion that there's a "you" is pulled back in, because in reality, you are the same as when there is clear seeing as was there those few hours.
Q. Ok
J. It's true not to chase experiences, but what you are is not an experience
Q. Understood
J. You're not trying to get something that you don't already have, don't try to recreate experience, that is doomed to failure, that keeps the mind going after a thing
Q. that is clear now - wasn't previously
J. Just know that in those moments, that is the really you, and the rest of the time, it's just appearances
Q. Is Awareness the one asking the questions and does it use the mind to do so?
J. The questions are just being asked, there is no one doing it, awareness knows the questions
Awareness has no questions, You have no questions, questions are just arising
The mind cannot grasp this, and it doesn't need to
Q. Sometimes the questions just seem mechanical, like repeating something you have learned, but don't always have the bite
J. The questions come from the mind, and what is that? Just a collection of thoughts, just thoughts arising moment by moment
Q. Ok
J. This is the clear seeing, seeing the false for what it is
this is the understanding
Q. What blew me away was the absolute simplicity of it all - just so natural and real and connected
J. When seemingly bad stuff is going on, it feels like that's happening to someone because that was believed in so long, let the feelings arise, just notice that this is happening, but to no one, just like an event you see on a movie screen happening to a character, you know that's not really happening, but it makes for a good show
Don't take my word for any of this, see it from your own direct experience
Q. Ok - you have certainly confirmed everything I was already sensing - which is good. I know that no one can do this for me - it is my own direct experiencing as you noted - totally agree
J. Good that you see this, that's another part that many never seem to get past.
So many like the idea that they are going to get something, that's the thinking process, which is
useful for actually getting stuff like food for survival, that's what it was intended to do, but it has
no business defining who you are, animals don't have this dilemma, they never have to seek out
enlightenment or any such goal, they simply are a part of the whole, and everything flows along
naturally.
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